Difference between revisions of "Sherline 8 inch lathe + milling column"
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* 3/16" shank mill bits (I think there's one decently sharp) | * 3/16" shank mill bits (I think there's one decently sharp) | ||
* [https://www.sherline.com/product/3012-standard-hold-down-set/ Standard Hold-Down Set] $26 | * [https://www.sherline.com/product/3012-standard-hold-down-set/ Standard Hold-Down Set] $26 | ||
| + | ** upgrade: [https://www.sherline.com/product/3013-step-block-hold-down-set/ Step Block Hold-Down Set] $42 | ||
* ?? maybe [https://www.sherline.com/product/3018-rear-mount-cutoff-tool-and-holder/ Rear Mount Cutoff Tool and Holder] but maybe not worth the cost/complexity/breaking $20 blades ?? ~$53 | * ?? maybe [https://www.sherline.com/product/3018-rear-mount-cutoff-tool-and-holder/ Rear Mount Cutoff Tool and Holder] but maybe not worth the cost/complexity/breaking $20 blades ?? ~$53 | ||
* ?? More stable base or location ?? It's sitting on a (covered) granite block but that block is sitting on a slightly convex surface. | * ?? More stable base or location ?? It's sitting on a (covered) granite block but that block is sitting on a slightly convex surface. | ||
Revision as of 05:48, 26 June 2020
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| Owner/Loaner | PS:One |
|---|---|
| Make/Model | Sherline 4530 + 3485 + more |
| Arrival Date | 2017 |
| Usability | yes |
| Contact | Paul McClay / Jim Brink |
| Where | Cold Metals across from the Shapeoko (needs metal-related landmark...) |
| Authorization Needed | yes |
| Hackable | no |
| Estimated Value | $1500 |
| Host Area | Cold Metals |
larval tool page blather
Ralph Brendler very generously donated this "full Sherline clockmaking (metric) setup with all the trimmings (rotating table, change gears, milling column, and lots more)". Apparently in 2017. Time passed. Per area host Jim Brink, Paul is "danger committee of one" checking it out and trying to get it online. This is a start at documenting the tool and determining what authorization it may or may not require. Eventually the blathery parts will go away.
To do
Authorization
required?
viral?
read this page and get going?
Needs to cover:
not hurting people
I'm thinking Cold Metals Tier 1 should address a lot of this. Things like sleeves, hair, jewelry & eyeballs. Refresh with reference to should have heard before in tier 1?
Work holding
Swinging tools e.g. flycutters (which we don't have atm).
not hurting the machine
Not cutting the machine - vise, chuck, slide, table, clamps, screws
Work holding (adding obstacles to hit...)
Swinging tools
Motor load
Slide friction/blockage/forcing
Wrong-length screws thru Tnuts into Tslots. Or pulling too hard on too few threads.
The main hazard to this machine at PS:1, I speculate, will be losing the little parts that the big parts need to be useful. And not knowing that they are missing because pile of random similar but different parts.
Scenario: the rotary table is on the crosslide and I want to move it to the right-angle adapter and put the right-angle on the crosslide. Besides the big right-angle, what little parts do I need to find? And what parts will come off that I need to put where they can be found by the next person that wants to take the rotary table _off_ the right-angle adapter?
So, thinking kits of parts per each accessory with durable illustrated inventory card in box/bag (if not fitted tray - but that seems a little complicated because maybe unhelpful to require assemblies in a certain configuration to fit in tray). Some items may need notes about where they might be installed if not obviously present in kit.
sufficient info to get started
By in-person auth? This wiki page? Canvas (which sounds like the correct answer but maybe a separate project)?
Expectations: Machining is not 3d printing. Manual machining is not CNC anything. More like a strategy game.
Grinding cutting tools for lathe
Where to find setup and measuring tools around PS:1. parallels, indicators, etc. That don't need a magnetic base - because I think there was a lack of iron around the Sherline (not there right now).
turn & mill simple standard parts (drilled right cylinder & 3-2-1 block?) (supply of suitable stock?)
Fixing
mostly replacing a few low-dollar missing bits
- 40260 Head Key $2.75
- but trouble?: "NOTE: Alignment keys are custom fitted to each machine. If you have more than one component that uses an alignment
key, try to keep the key with the slot it was originally fitted to."
- 30880 Drawbolt with Washer $5.25
- bolt is a bolt; washer is slightly special
- 3056 10-32 T-Nuts (10 pack) $8.50
- fit Sherline-size T-slots
- could get 1 for $0.95, or zero, but I think having the expected number for each assembly will help with inventory
- 3x 10-32 x 1/2 SHC
- ?? 4x 10-32 x 3/16 set screw ??
- ?? <4 10-32 x 3/8 SHC ??
- ...and a less low-dollar 1/4" Drill Chuck with #1 Morse Arbor $53. I think this is a "missing" because we have the 1/4" chuck key and the #0 Arbor that would have come with the chuck+#1+#0 kit. This would also include a Drawbolt with Washer. If otherwise would buy (vs make) Drawbolt for $5, then chuck+arbor cost is effectively $53-5=47
Adding
Adding a few items to make the whole more beginner-friendly. Like:
- lathe tools
- lathe tool stock
- 3/16" shank mill bits (I think there's one decently sharp)
- Standard Hold-Down Set $26
- upgrade: Step Block Hold-Down Set $42
- ?? maybe Rear Mount Cutoff Tool and Holder but maybe not worth the cost/complexity/breaking $20 blades ?? ~$53
- ?? More stable base or location ?? It's sitting on a (covered) granite block but that block is sitting on a slightly convex surface.
Inventory
| Sherline | ||||
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| Component | SKU | Fiddlybits | Note | |
| 8" Lathe with Adjustable Handwheels
(Metric) |
4530 |
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morse #1 rusty
PDF is a 50-page book with a lot to say about the machine, machining and machining on this machine. | |
| Lathe Deluxe Vertical Milling Column
(Metric) |
3485 | Head Alignment Key | Deluxe = adjustable "zero" handwheels | |
| 2.5” 3-Jaw Chuck | 1041 | 2x Tommy Bars | ||
| Headstock Riser Block Set | 1291 |
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Includes 1297 Headstock Spacer/Riser and 1288 Riser Rocker Tool Post | |
| Clockmaker’s Gear-cutting Arbor
(7.0mm to #1 Morse taper) |
2094 | use with drawbolt? (not included) | ||
| Gear Cutters | ||||
| Crosslide Accessory Plate | 3017 | 4x (Sherline T-nut + 10/32 x 3/8" SHC screw) | stiffens thin lathe crosslide for milling | |
| Slitting Saw Holder | 3065 | missing drawbolt+washer | ||
| Slitting Saw [which one?] | 730x | |||
| End Mill Holder (3/8") | 3079 | Tommy Bar | ||
| Thread Cutting Attachment | 3100 | legion | complete as of late 2019; some parts installed in lathe base; dis/engage action not free; really wants some way to manage many parts | |
| Mill Vise | 3551 | 2x (Sherline T-nut + L-clamp + 10-32 x 5/8" SHC screw) | ||
| Manual Rotary Table | 3700 |
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| Right Angle Attachment
(for rotary table) |
3701 |
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| 1/4" Drill Chuck with 2 Arbors | 1072 |
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conjectural - because have #0 arbor & 1/4in chuck key; if so, missing chuck, #1 arbor and drawbolt | |
| more | missing: one Alignment Key, some Sherline-special T-nuts missing, drawbolts, ?set screws?; only need one drawbolt+washer but have zero (bolt is a bolt but washer is special) | |||
On Hackabiliy
The Do Not Hack label is mostly to get you to read this.
The well-accessorized machine is an endlessly hackable kit of parts. Think LEGO®. Dumping out a box of LEGOs and beginning to build you-know-not-what-yet is all hack. Then the bricks go back in the box for another day and each brick remains the brick that it was. Unless you're that kid. Don't be that kid. Hack new parts to do new things. Especially fixtures and work holding. Hack your own lathe faceplate for $10. So, "do not hack" means don't cut up the vise but make for yourself the fixture you need. Or whatever. And please put all the pieces back in the drawer for the next you.