Talk:Vote to Replace Google Groups with Discourse Forum
Wording is jargony
'implement' isn't the best word choice. It has a technical meaning that doesn't fit here.
I suggest replacing it with 'use' and 'run'.
- "We authorize the board to use Discourse for the main member forum..."
- "spend up to $500 to run Discourse".
Or maybe for the first point, "We authorize the board to replace Google Groups with Discourse for the main member forum".
- The yearly cost doesn't seem to be higher than the proposed budget, I'm not positive on the requirements so any help with that would be great. --Rtystgeeke (talk) 11:09, 22 September 2017 (CDT)
- 500 can cover more than one year, but eventually it would run out. I'm estimate cost based on Digital Ocean's prices for their lower tiers $10/month or $20/month. I don't know if we'd want more than that. Skm (talk) 11:20, 22 September 2017 (CDT)
- Just a placeholder for the vote at the moment. I haven't audited the budget to see if we need to allocate money, but it would be an unplanned expense. --Rtystgeeke (talk) 11:09, 22 September 2017 (CDT)
There is concern on the mailing list about how moderation would be different compared to Google Groups, and I am providing some references for Discourse here. I am not familiar with how moderation works on Google Groups because I have never done moderation for any google group. My impression of groups is that it is all or nothing, which seems awkward to me.
Things Discourse moderators can do
- Discourse Moderation Guide has subcategories including:
- Poor title (moderators can edit titles)
- Off-topic digression (moderators can move posts to a new or existing topic)
- Duplicate topic (moderators can move posts to the duplicated topic)
- Heated, difficult, non-productive discussion (complicated stuff)
- Description of various user states in Discourse
Things Discourse users can do
- have different trust levels. (I think for the discourse experiments we set trust level for people logging in from member accounts to higher than +1 but I can't remember.)
- "Like" a post (there is no down-voting)
- Flag a post (by default, users with trust-level +1)
- What are Flags and how do they work? (posts can be marked as off-topic, inappropriate, spam, something else)
- So What Exactly Happens when you "Flag"?
- If a post is flagged by more than 3 (the number is a setting) users of trust level 1+ (this is also a setting) it is collapsed and someone browsing the forum has to click to expand it. See page for example.
When we played with Discourse before, I thought it would be nice to have moderators per categories. For example, if we had a python category it would make sense to have people who run the python groups be moderators only in that category but not in a category like hot metals. People want the feature but it does not exist yet. (I haven't been hosting PYOO for a while now, and I wouldn't want to be a moderator for anything else. too much work to triage whether something is off-topic, spam, mean, etc). Skm (talk) 13:40, 25 September 2017 (CDT)
example discourse sites
btw, we've been using discourse at work. Recently we switched the community site over to it.