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::: We went with a $750 limit this year, which is what we told to the area hosts when they were making their budgets. If this hasn't already been added back into the language, it will be in just a minute. [[User:Justin|Justin]] ([[User talk:Justin|talk]]) 18:51, 6 January 2015 (CST)
::: We went with a $750 limit this year, which is what we told to the area hosts when they were making their budgets. If this hasn't already been added back into the language, it will be in just a minute. [[User:Justin|Justin]] ([[User talk:Justin|talk]]) 18:51, 6 January 2015 (CST)
"Area hosts are authorized to spend up to $750 for any single capital expenditure. Any line item in the budget that goes above this limit is not authorized for purchase and will require a separate member vote.
Area hosts may spend any amount to replace or repair existing tooling or machinery. Replacements must be the exact same item. Any upgrade or different tooling or machinery that serves the same purpose would require a member vote to authorize spending."
:I am still not real comfortable with this wording... I understand the other side of this argument. (That a vote could keep the equipment down for too long.) I am wondering what people would think of adding something like this:
:"Any spending that falls in the above two situations that the host post on the mailing list what they are going to do before spending over $300 at least 12 hours before the purchase."
:This is just so the membership can speak up if there may be a desire to upgrade a piece instead of direct replacement when it brakes- Just to cite one situation that might come up. --[[User:Lucas|lucas]] ([[User talk:Lucas|talk]]) 19:47, 15 January 2015 (CST)
== Hassle of a vote ==
== Hassle of a vote ==
== Uncomfortable with Consumables ==
== Uncomfortable with Consumables ==
"I'm not entirely comfortable with paying for consumables-- it seems to
"I'm not entirely comfortable with paying for consumables-- it seems to
me that they should come out of the donation boxes in each area. But I'd
me that they should come out of the donation boxes in each area. But I'd
like to hear what other people think about this (I'm not a voting member
like to hear what other people think about this (I'm not a voting member
in any case)."-Ron B.
in any case)."-Ron B.
=== My take ===
I think it's worth keeping a close eye on consumables. In a few areas that I am aware of that have consumables that the space helps fund -- Electronics, Cold Metals, Hot Metals, I think it's been working out rather well. A while back we began suggesting to area hosts that it would be ok to keep some supplies available if it made sense to the area host. We wanted to see if it would work out well on a small scale.
* '''Electronics''' -- The area keeps a supply of available components. I think this has helped further the goals of the organization in project completion, and the ability to mass purchase at discounted prices
* '''Cold Metals''' -- The area has a supply of small stock. I think it's been useful for the membership to have small stock available, since similar stock is small quantities is prohibitively expensive to acquire and the space has better bargaining power than most individual members would. (Thanks go out to Dean for that)
* '''Hot Metals''' -- We used to require people to supply there own propane. This was highly problematic. A communal supply makes sense to me here. Additionally, communal supply of welding materials also makes sense to me
* '''Kitchen''' -- I'm not a fan of this one. Supplying snack foods doesn't seem to be in line with the organizations goals. Certain cooking components could make sense: oils, spices, seasonings, etc.
* '''Arts''' -- I don't think Arts/Crafts purchases supplies, as most people are able to purchase there entire project's material without making mistakes, and there is often a lot of donated material around. I could be convinced that some shared supplies here would also make sense
* '''General/G&A''' -- supplies may be misleading, but toilet paper, paper towels, cups, pencilsm paper, that sort of thing make sense to me.
* '''Tool Cage''' -- Not sure what would be a "supply" here, other than nails/screws. Actually, a supply of nails/screws does make sense.
* '''Woodshop''' -- Supplying raw wood would be difficult to manage. I wouldn't be opposed to a trial run.
* '''CNC''' -- We supply filament and vinyl. I suspect that if we didn't, we would have the same propane problem -- where do we put all of these partially used collections of material that we can't use? For large projects, people still bring in there own supply.
Something to consider, it is worth watching the source of raw materials, we should keep paying attention to who receives monetary benefit from the space.
In All the areas, I think that the onus of supplying all/any of the raw material for projects should be on the member and not the space, (exception: Hot Metals welding supply). It has just been really helpful for members' to have the extra parts that they didn't know they needed.
--[[User:Hef|Hef]] ([[User talk:Hef|talk]]) 15:15, 17 January 2015 (CST)
== Clarification requests ==
* [[2015_Budget_Vote/Minimal_Operating_Expenses_Plan]] What situations cause this to come into play? --[[User:Hef|Hef]] ([[User talk:Hef|talk]]) 17:33, 18 January 2015 (CST)
* Can an area host spend more than the amount listed on a line item on that line item if it comes from a different part of his or her budget? --[[User:Hef|Hef]] ([[User talk:Hef|talk]]) 17:33, 18 January 2015 (CST)
