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=== Equipment Purchase questions ===
=== Equipment Purchase questions ===
There are a lot of questions above, but these are standard questions that eqipment authorizations need to be able to be defended against. For the most part, there is no exact equipment being listed on any of the equipment purchases, No links or locations of intended purchase. There is no consideration for floor space being taken into account. There are no assurances that arrangements for training of members are being taken into account. There are no assurances that people executing purchases have performed sufficient research, or are familiar with the items they are tasked with purchasing. --[[User:Hef|Hef]] ([[User talk:Hef|talk]]) 00:29, 13 January 2015 (CST)
There are a lot of questions above, but these are standard questions that eqipment authorizations need to be able to be defended against. For the most part, there is no exact equipment being listed on any of the equipment purchases, No links or locations of intended purchase. There is no consideration for floor space being taken into account. There are no assurances that arrangements for training of members are being taken into account. There are no assurances that people executing purchases have performed sufficient research, or are familiar with the items they are tasked with purchasing. --[[User:Hef|Hef]] ([[User talk:Hef|talk]]) 00:29, 13 January 2015 (CST)
===Feedback on Mailing List===
Equipment in general budget moved to votes
There are quite a few line items in the area's budgets that look to me like they are equipment. I would like to see these be moved to member votes. Especially new equipment.
List:
CTO Server and Switch upgrades - $1600
New equipment, especially at this amount, should be a separate vote
Hot metals casting equipment - $1000
New equipment, especially at this amount, should be a separate vote
Hot metals air extraction - $1000
A single line purchase at this amount should be a separate vote
Woodshop 18" bandsaw - $1000
Is this replacing current equipment? Even so, this seems like too much not be its own separate vote.
Woodshop jointer - $700
Even if this is replacing current equipment, this seems like too much to just be a non-descriptive line item in the general budget.
Woodshop planer - $700
Even if this is replacing current equipment, this seems like too much to just be a non-descriptive line item in the general budget.
Woodshop Mortiser - $500
Is this new equipment? Why isn't this a separate vote?
There are probably also others. New equipment and/or expensive equipment really should be standalone member votes.
Plaintext language
The numbers that we are voting on should be in plaintext in the wiki. The pdfs are hard to manage and they are hard to change by anyone who doesn't have the source. Could we move the pdf to the background language? And put what we are voting on directly in the wiki?
Move laser loan out of CNC
So, for the CNC area's sake, couldn't we put the laser cutter loan in general and administrative? Putting it in the CNC budget makes the CNC budget look larger than it actually is, especially if we were to just look at summary numbers.
CNC total with laser cutter loan: $6900
CNC total without laser cutter loan: $4500
Move vote back a week
The time after elections is generally used to swear in the new board and do a hand off meeting. That time is going to be essentially gone if we have to do this vote in the same meeting.
I also think that the vote won't get enough discussion time if not moved back.
Certain language moved out of vote
The itemized expense report language (underneath "Area hosts will be issued a expense card with...") should be moved out of this vote. If the BOD ever needed to change the way this was approached, to fit actual needs, they would have to write a vote to amend. This would take away a lot of the freedom to figure out what works. I'd also like to see more current board input on this one, as we have the experience with this and especially since the BOD would be the ones charged with implementing.
The entire reporting bullet point should also be moved out of this vote. Violating vote language is really bad. If, for some reason, the treasurer takes 5 weeks to release the monthly report, they are now violating the vote. I get the intent here, but putting the language here is not safe. As well, I'd like to see more current board input on this part, as we have the experience actually managing this.-Bry
===Uncomfortable with Consumables===
"I'm not entirely comfortable with paying for consumables-- it seems to
me that they should come out of the donation boxes in each area. But I'd
like to hear what other people think about this (I'm not a voting member
in any case)."-Ron B.
