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== How are we handling cleanliness? ==
== How are we handling cleanliness? ==
This proposal addresses creating a space for the kitchen. This should help keep shop grime out of the kitchen area facilitating cleanliness. As with any area of the space users will be responsible for policing their messes(Tucker)
This proposal addresses creating a space for the kitchen. This should help keep shop grime out of the kitchen area facilitating cleanliness. As with any area of the space users will be responsible for policing their messes --[[User:TuckerTomlinson|Tucker]]
== What happens to other groups needing a slop sink? ==
== What happens to other groups needing a slop sink? ==
== Where is beerchurch going to go when their space gets replaced with cabinets and a such? ==
== Where is beerchurch going to go when their space gets replaced with cabinets and a such? ==
Beerchurch will stay where it is. One of the reasons there aren't specific cabinets in the wall plan is to allow the brewing and kitchen users to fill in as they need. (Tucker)
Beerchurch will stay where it is. One of the reasons there aren't specific cabinets in the wall plan is to allow the brewing and kitchen users to fill in as they need. --[[User:TuckerTomlinson|Tucker]]
== Is a kitchen neccesary? ==
== Is a kitchen neccesary? ==
* Plumbing is not covered in this budget proposal.
* Plumbing is not covered in this budget proposal.
* The plumbing is one of the next stages and will be considerable more expensive
* The plumbing is one of the next stages and will be considerabley more expensive
* Some plumbing is exposed outside of the wall
* Some plumbing is exposed outside of the wall
== What about the ceiling? ==
== What about the ceiling? ==
* A ceiling is not part of this proposal.
* A ceiling of some type can be installed, it won't be drywall and will probably be either be a drop ceiling or an extension of the catwalk.
* We can't make the ceiling legal height and still meet code (d34fish)
== Budget breakdown ==
== Budget breakdown ==
* number and installation of outlets
* number and installation of outlets
** The cost of running outlets on the new wall is maybe $150 if there isn't drywall in place. (Tucker)
** The cost of running outlets on the new wall is maybe $150 if there isn't drywall in place. --[[User:TuckerTomlinson|Tucker]]
** The budget does not include outlets, just walls --[[User:Hef|Hef]]
** The budget does not include outlets, just walls --[[User:Hef|Hef]]
== What is the Bill of Materials? ==
== What is the Bill of Materials? ==
The Bill of materials can be found on [https://groups.google.com/group/pumping-station-one/attach/4e8dc95d9fd52020/ps1wallsnew.xlsx?part=4&authuser=0 google groups].
Please note the BOM is a plan and not final. The final BOM is not part of the vote.
== Are the current plans substancial enough to make the kitchen a functional learning kitchen? ==
== Are the current plans substancial enough to make the kitchen a functional learning kitchen? ==
All this proposal does is put up partitions. The actual bread and butter of rehabbing a kitchen isn't even on the table yet. (Hailey)
All this proposal does is put up partitions. The actual bread and butter of rehabbing a kitchen isn't even on the table yet. (Hailey)
== Is this project really going to achieve the goal of a vaguely sanitary kitchen? ==
* Based on what d34fish has stated, we have little hope of ever getting a legal ceiling. We have a catwalk above the kitchen, which is a source of dust and contamination. The plastic sheeting in place now is, potentially, a fire hazard and may not be sustainable. Therefore, is it worth several thousand dollars to have a kitchen that has walls without a ceiling? Is this substantially better than what we have now, and enough so to justify the cost? --[[User:RyanPierce|Ryan]]
* Tucker says a reasonable ceiling is possible. --[[User:Hef|Hef]]
== Could we put the kitchen in the lounge instead? ==
* Drainage would be prohibitively expensive
* There is no good way to do ventilation
== Will there be enough lighting in a closed off kitchen? ==
I don't remember lights in the budget.
* There are two track lights under the catwalk that will be in the kitchen area. I still think it will be a bit dark in there.
== Ventilation ==
Do the walls themselves (without a ceiling) cause a ventilation issue?
* We are pretty sure they will not. The walls will not completely enclose the space and will only be 8 or 10 feet high. Before we put any type of ceiling on the kitchen, we will create an stove vent that will go through the building ceiling.
== Wall height ==
How high are the walls going to be?
* Eric said 8 or 10 feet high. I think 10 foot walls would look best.
== Plumbing ==
Shouldn't we do the plumbing first before we have to knock out drywall to run a pipe?
* Apparently they want to attach the shop sink to one of the sides of the kitchen walls. The pipe can be run from outside of the kitchen. Eric does not feel that punching a hole in the drywall is much of a concern. He also says the door will be large enough to bring in anything the kitchen will need.
