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::: Now, if by some chance someone does manage to sneak an animal past our tight security into the space and have it bite someone before we have a chance to kick them out (perhaps even as part of the incident where we try to remove the animal, as is likely), what might happen? Will the insurance company go through our bylaws and policies to see that we totally had a policy saying that person couldn't bring an animal in? No, they will not do that. They don't care what our policies are. What they will care about is that we made a good faith effort to remove the animal from the premises as soon as we were made aware of the situation. For this, it doesn't matter that we have a policy. If we want to tell someone their pet can't be in the space, all we have to say is "our insurance doesn't allow us to have animals in the space." --[[User:Justin|Justin]] ([[User talk:Justin|talk]]) 12:24, 5 May 2015 (CDT)
::: Now, if by some chance someone does manage to sneak an animal past our tight security into the space and have it bite someone before we have a chance to kick them out (perhaps even as part of the incident where we try to remove the animal, as is likely), what might happen? Will the insurance company go through our bylaws and policies to see that we totally had a policy saying that person couldn't bring an animal in? No, they will not do that. They don't care what our policies are. What they will care about is that we made a good faith effort to remove the animal from the premises as soon as we were made aware of the situation. For this, it doesn't matter that we have a policy. If we want to tell someone their pet can't be in the space, all we have to say is "our insurance doesn't allow us to have animals in the space." --[[User:Justin|Justin]] ([[User talk:Justin|talk]]) 12:24, 5 May 2015 (CDT)
:::: Before the policy, PS:One had an open door to dogs. After the policy, assuming we follow up by posting clear signs at the entrances, we will have taken every reasonable precaution to have prevented an accident. If we assume most people follow the rules, then hopefully nobody will bring a (non-service animal) dog to the space in spite of the rules, so nobody ever will get bit on the premises. If people follow the rules, then the policy just about eliminates the risk of a dog bite, and it also means we aren't endangering our landlord with liability that isn't insured against.
:::: Now in the unlikely case that someone does bring an animal (other than a service animal) into the space in spite of the policy, we have grounds to ask the person to leave. If the animal bites someone, we still have no insurance to cover the situation. But our liability situation is very different. In the former case, the owner, according to PS:One, did nothing wrong. PS:One allowed the animal that caused injury into the space. We knew we had no insurance coverage for it, and we let it happen anyway. Afterward, the animal and its owner were practically trespassing when the incident took place. We did everything in our power to prevent anything like that from happening. --[[User:Rdpierce|Rdpierce]] ([[User talk:Rdpierce|talk]]) 23:33, 5 May 2015 (CDT)
(B) Proposed vote does not pass
(B) Proposed vote does not pass