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:The suggestion that PS:One and Dan are somehow adverse such that there's any "pressure" to be exerted on him is offensive, alienating, and weird. I gather that you've never seen or negotiated a commercial lease. [[User:Jason|Jason]] ([[User talk:Jason|talk]]) 11:50, 26 July 2015 (CDT)
 
:The suggestion that PS:One and Dan are somehow adverse such that there's any "pressure" to be exerted on him is offensive, alienating, and weird. I gather that you've never seen or negotiated a commercial lease. [[User:Jason|Jason]] ([[User talk:Jason|talk]]) 11:50, 26 July 2015 (CDT)
 
::With everything I have ever seen or negotiated the seller wanted the highest price they could get and the buyer wanted to pay the lowest price they could get. If that is not the case here then my comments are mute. --[[User:Lucas|Lucas]] ([[User talk:Lucas|talk]]) 06:40, 27 July 2015 (CDT)
 
::With everything I have ever seen or negotiated the seller wanted the highest price they could get and the buyer wanted to pay the lowest price they could get. If that is not the case here then my comments are mute. --[[User:Lucas|Lucas]] ([[User talk:Lucas|talk]]) 06:40, 27 July 2015 (CDT)
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:::Of course that's the case here. But our negotiating position isn't any mystery and Dan/Tony are as well aware of the all the incentives on both sides as we are. There's no need to paint this as any more adversarial than any other business transaction between people who know each other's circumstances. [[User:Jason|Jason]] ([[User talk:Jason|talk]]) 11:05, 5 August 2015 (CDT)
    
== Suggestions for changes to the language ==
 
== Suggestions for changes to the language ==
 
We probably don't want to over complicate the language too much, but I think we can alleviate some concerns that we've been hearing about the vote. I think we should change the language to say that we authorize the board (or maybe even a designated member chosen by someone) to enter into negotiations for the new lease. The language could also maybe spell out a limit for how much the membership is willing to pay for rent, or whatever. I don't think we necessarily need to vote on the terms of the lease, though having them available for discussion during negotiations would probably help the designated negotiator decide what's best for the community. [[User:Justin|Justin]] ([[User talk:Justin|talk]]) 12:58, 4 August 2015 (CDT)
 
We probably don't want to over complicate the language too much, but I think we can alleviate some concerns that we've been hearing about the vote. I think we should change the language to say that we authorize the board (or maybe even a designated member chosen by someone) to enter into negotiations for the new lease. The language could also maybe spell out a limit for how much the membership is willing to pay for rent, or whatever. I don't think we necessarily need to vote on the terms of the lease, though having them available for discussion during negotiations would probably help the designated negotiator decide what's best for the community. [[User:Justin|Justin]] ([[User talk:Justin|talk]]) 12:58, 4 August 2015 (CDT)
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